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Aidan Rhiannon ([personal profile] bladespark) wrote2007-11-07 01:50 am

On the subject of Growly

I never thought it would cause so much drama to defend somebody I don't even like that much. But I really don't care. Here's my whole stance, right out in public, because I know there are a lot of people who don't like her. I could write up a huge essay about why I'm pretty sure I know Growly well enough to say something about her, even though we're not friends. But I won't. That's immaterial. The simple fact is this:

I've said she's honest. End of story.

You don't believe me, well... that's your problem, and not mine. I would rather live in a world where sometimes I am shocked at the bad behavior of people I liked, than live in a world where I never trust anybody because somebody could hurt me. I would rather live in a world where people can give sincere apologies and get second chances. I would rather occasionally fall for BS than never trust anybody. I would even rather sometimes get stung than never trust anybody I've ever heard something bad about. There's a whole room full of convention goers in the Rocky Mountain area that heard something bad about me. I'd sure hope that most of them would be willing to give me a chance anyhow. So I'd rather give folks a chance myself, even if I do sometimes get hurt.

But you know what? I have a pretty finely honed BS meter, and I'm not seeing any here. I still say Growly is kind of a b*****, but so am I. Rudeness and dishonesty are not the same thing. So if you want to bash on her for being rude, go ahead. But if you're going to imply that she's some kind of conniving backstabber, I'm going to take that as a personal insult, because I've vouched for her honesty. So if you must, do it where I won't see it, because I'm going to be ticked off by it.

[identity profile] jtbeckett.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
you know what's funny... i bet if you all lived in close proximity and were able to hang out together, you'd probably get along, because the communication would be easier with intonation and body language... and there would be less miscommunication. Actually, i feel that way about much of my friends list... except katzedrache... we read each others complete sarcasm and deadpan tongue-in-cheek humor without fail.

[identity profile] growly.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
The relative anonymimity of the internet dehumanizes the people we interact with, and makes it much easier to become a little bitter ball of hate full of 'lulz'.

[identity profile] jtbeckett.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
i tried to remove all the lulz from my journal a short while ago... I dropped furbid horrors, and stupidpetowners... (probably the biggest offenders) I mean it still shows up in some of the journals i read... but it's much less frequent. I think that dehuminizing factor wears on me...

[identity profile] growly.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, same. As much fun as I had in fursuitsnark, it's obvious I can't handle it.

[identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I suspect I'm one of the offenders when it comes to posting snarky stuff. I just find it hard to resist making fun of some of the ridiculous people who message me. Result of having a public IM, I suppose.

But stupidpetowners is too much even for me. I've looked in there about three times, and every time I've metaphorically run away screaming. A snarky community that's basically having fun is one thing. One where people take everything personally and accuse people of abuse constantly is over the top. And when I tried out pet_snark_snark, that's supposedly about being snarky at the "one right way" people, nobody there was having any lulz, they were just taking their little petty vendettas somewhere else to fight about them there. I think the only snark community I've seen that's actually just fun is bdsm_snark, where it's expected that the snark is for amusement, not for drama or putting people down. But I dropped that anyhow. Even if I can't resist sometimes making fun of people, I realized that doing it every single day was really dragging me down.
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[identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
*giggles madly* Delete or not, but I'm forever going to have the mental image of you running around the intertubes lisping and being limp-wristed at everybody.

[identity profile] jtbeckett.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
what ever do you mean? *gasp*

[identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
You're exceptionally silly.

I do still tend to take things very literally though. I mean... I can't help it. Even when it's completely obvious that something is sarcastic, my first impulse is still to respond to it literally.

[identity profile] jtbeckett.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
well, i'll have to keep you informed of my tone through things surrounded by asterrick-astreck-asterex... *flustered* um... by stars.

[identity profile] jtbeckett.livejournal.com 2007-11-07 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah... that's what i was finding as well... sometimes you can't help but get a laugh out of the way someone else handles something... but when you're actually seeking it out... it becomes a little too time consuming... like your trying to fill a need to feel superior or something...

anyhow... it was to a point when i was skipping through stuff, looking for snark to read... not replying most of the time... but actually seeking it out... plus watching the office, which is snark in a roundabout way... House MD which is deliberate snark, Boston Legal... again with the snark. It is a great for of humor... but it's not really condusive to keeping your head clear for starting up good relationships.
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