Leanings

Aug. 4th, 2007 06:16 pm
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Lately it seems that every time I hear a little more about what Obama is saying I find myself leaning a little more in his direction.

It's very odd... never in my admittedly short adult life has there been a politician whose speeches I actually felt good about hearing. I've listend to left and right, radical and conservative, lots of different debates, and they all sounded like politicians. Well... Obama still sounds a little like a politician, but not really that much. He's come out and frankly said something. How often does that happen? And usually the thought of going to vote is laden with distaste, because I know that I"m going to be voting somebody I strongly dislike into office, no matter who I vote for. I actually don't strongly dislike Obama.

It's quite shocking.

And it's really a rather massive shame that the odds are that I will never get to vote for him. Somebody who actually appears relatively sane is in the presidential race at long last, but odds are that he won't make it past the primaries, and I am not registered as a democrat, so I don't get to vote in those anyhow. (I refuse to join either of the big parties. I just can't do it. If I must be in a party, I'll take the libertarians.)

I even like or don't hate most of his platform and everything.

Woe.

Date: 2007-08-05 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rigger.livejournal.com
Heh, yeah I'm so far firmly in the Obama camp too. I find myself liking his platform and I also think it's high time we had someone other than a Bush or Clinton in office. I'm not trying to impinge upon Hillary's experience...but it's just time for some new blood methinks.

Date: 2007-08-05 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
See, I personally can't stand Hillary, as a person or as a politician. She just gets under my skin.

Date: 2007-08-05 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mavikfelna.livejournal.com
I've liked alot of stuff Obama has said, but he's anti-2nd amendment and that's really turned me off of him.

Even though I know he'd never have a chance at winning, I'd love to see Michael Badnarak run again. He was the Libertarian candidate last time and I really liked him.

--Mav

Date: 2007-08-05 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thalass.livejournal.com
which one is the second amendment?

Date: 2007-08-05 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
Right to bear arms, I believe.

Date: 2007-08-05 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thalass.livejournal.com
Ah. I suppose that would be a bad one to lose.

Date: 2007-08-05 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribe-of-stars.livejournal.com
Call it the Founding Fathers' anti-tyranny contingency plan.

Date: 2007-08-05 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dotty-alice.livejournal.com
On the news he said something about nuclear talks with Pakistan and we were going WTH?

I'm still as of yet undecided.

Date: 2007-08-05 05:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
Well, I haven't picked yet either. And it's a good ways off yet anyhow. Obama probably won't even make it past the primaries, so it's a moot point, really. Unless Clinton really screws up, which admittedly would amuse me greatly. I'd love to see her get taken down a notch.

Date: 2007-08-05 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thalass.livejournal.com
I've been thinking that he's pretty good, too, though in the paper the other day was an article about him. It said he was going to take a harder stance with Pakistan, and even send US troops into their territory if they don't put more effort into finding the terrorists hiding in their mountains near Afghanistan.

And that just shits me, the whole "do as we say, or we'll invade your sovereign territory and do it ourselves" bit.


Other than that, he seems alright. (for a politician)

Date: 2007-08-05 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
Indeed. For a politician.

Date: 2007-08-05 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribe-of-stars.livejournal.com
That militaristic remark came after he called Hillary "Bush/Cheney Lite" after her remarks in that silly YouTube debate. A blatant contradiction...see icon.

Date: 2007-08-05 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
Urban- see the "for a politician" comments. Can you point me to ANY politician who has never contradicted himsef?

Date: 2007-08-06 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribe-of-stars.livejournal.com
Good point. However, many politicians wait several years to contradict previous statements, long enough for people to forget what they said initially.

Let's just agree to distrust them in all things and leave it at that.

Date: 2007-08-05 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scribe-of-stars.livejournal.com
I have a question. Why have we started the presidential election hype machine so blazing early? Must we slog through debate after debate when the actual election year hasn't rolled around? Won't they run out of things to say long before next November?

I understand what you're saying, but...

Date: 2007-08-06 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starblade-enkai.livejournal.com
I really don't think Barack Obama is electable due to his stance on foreign affairs. According to him, it's okay to fight a war just because we're an Hero Of The Day (Like the genocide in Darfur) but it's unforgivably EVIL, and dare I say NAZI-ish to continue the war in Iraq, because *gasp* we may actually benefit from it?

Now I'd respect a position to tactically withdrawl soldiers (but keep up air strikes in case Al Qaeda tries to operate there) and fight the war on the terrorists on a battlefield of OUR choosing, but that isn't what Obama is saying at all. In fact, he says that Iraq wasn't an IMMINENT threat and was thus never a valid target yet he's FOR sending troops to Darfur. That makes him a hypocrite by ANY definition of the term, and in the worst possible way: On foreign affairs, where the right or wrong actions ARE A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH.

Re: I understand what you're saying, but...

Date: 2007-08-06 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
I'm not even going to read your comment. You know why? Because I don't like you.

I don't really care if you don't like me.

Date: 2007-08-06 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starblade-enkai.livejournal.com
But if you're not going to read my comment you've just proven that you're not worthy of the right to vote.

Re: I don't really care if you don't like me.

Date: 2007-08-06 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
What, I should take the advice of somebody who had proven that they're a total and utter moron when it comes to who to vote for? Yeah, right.

Date: 2007-08-06 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starblade-enkai.livejournal.com
Thank you for proving my point. Someone who takes the internet seriously enough to actually generate a first impression off of what someone said on the internet really shouldn't be voting.

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